Hi, I'm new here, and although I have never done this, I was wanting to get some information about this. I have a relative who gets these patches.

1. Fentanyl Gel Patch Abuse

I have an acquaintance (my middle daughter's best friend's mother, if you can follow that) who is addicted to narcotic pain killers. She used to shoot Dilaudid (about 80mg. A day, IIRC). Now, though, she has an out-of-town doctor who is prescribing Fentanyl patches for her. My friend, we'll call her 'B' does not wear the patches, as she's supposed to. Instead, she cuts them open and sucks the gel out of them. She eats five a day.

The unknown here is what strength they are (I know they come in different strengths). She's been doing this for about a year now. Long term, what will this do to her? Mods, if this question belongs in IMHO and not GQ, I apologize. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Most likely nothing, as long as she can afford it. Opioids are one of the safest long-term drugs to be addicted to, physically speaking.

• Fentanyl abuse occurs by a. Duragesic patches contain Fentanyl in gel. Then use the patches himself — transdermally or by eating the Fentanyl gel.
• This is what happens to you when you suck the gel out of a Fentanyl patch. It starts a little slow but the drug take a hold at a rapid pace. Do not touch the sticky.

She may gain weight and/or ruin her teeth if the fentanyl suppresses her metabolism and/or cause a sugar craving. Assuming she doesn't suddenly take a whole bunch more than usual and overdose, that is, which is always a concern. Oh, and of course, she could also be ingesting something she isn't supposed to get directly into her digestive system by eating the gel instead of letting it absorb through the skin.

I'm not sure what ingredients are in the gel besides fentanyl itself. But from the drug itself, she should be fairly safe. Until she runs out of money, gets in trouble for insurance fraud, or decides to stop on her own. Withdrawal is pretty unpleasant. Also, I'm writing this at six in the morning after being up all night, so I reserve the right to have forgotten to include vitally important facts that could potentially change the answer significantly. But from the drug itself, she should be fairly safe. Until she runs out of money, gets in trouble for insurance fraud, or decides to stop on her own.

Well, she has medical assistance, which pays for most of them. See, she convinced her doctor (who should only write her a scrip for ten patches a month, as they are to be changed every 72 hours) that her patches fall off frequently because she has oily skin and sweats excessively. So her doctor prescribes 30 a month.

I don't know where she gets the rest of the patches. I do know that she funds the cost for the patches that her insurance won't cover by selling Oxycontin that her doctor prescribes for 'breakthrough pain'.

Sounds like the most likely thing that will happen is a criminal record and forced detox via incerceration (or by being sent to rehab or something). If I were you, I'd do my best to convince her to get help before that happens. If she is unwilling to live without opiates, she should at least go to a methadone clinic for the time being. It's certainly better than what she's doing now. Well, she already went through a court-ordered rehab facility year before last (she even wears her 'graduate' jacket from the place:eek: ).

I've tried repeatedly to talk her into getting help. Cumberland is supposed to be getting a methadone clinic in the next few months; maybe I could talk her into going there, but if her past habits are any indication, she'd probably get teh methadone and keep eating the patches. I don't have a lot of hope for her recovery, but I wanted to know about the effects of the Fentanyl because I am concerned about her kids, ages 11 and 12. Report her to the children's protective service for your state.

Her children are at high risk for immediate injury since their mother is continually doped up. The self-absorbed, dream state their mother lives in also subjects them to neglect amounting to abuse as well as terrible patterning for their later years. MAYBE seeing her children fostered out for a while will convince her to get help. I asmire you trying to help. Rob She has been reported to CPS a number of times (not by me, but if someone else hadn't done it, I would have) because her house is unfit. I don't just mean it's messy, I mean you cannot walk in there.

Her father hires a string of people to help her clean it up everytime Soc. Threatens to take away the kids. Of course, it doesn't ever get really 'clean' because she's a hoarder who will not throw stuff away. She has a 25 gal. Rubbermaid Tote full of her daughter's pony tail holders! To the world, her kids always look clean and well-put together, because she's obsessive about that.

Not that her kids are happy. If her daughter (11 years old) moves while my 'friend' is doing her hair, she'll yell 'You'd better fu.in' stay still before I bash your fu.in' head in!' But maybe she's never been reported for being constantly doped up. I'll have to give that serious consideration!

Report her to the children's protective service for your state. Her children are at high risk for immediate injury since their mother is continually doped up. The self-absorbed, dream state their mother lives in also subjects them to neglect amounting to abuse as well as terrible patterning for their later years. MAYBE seeing her children fostered out for a while will convince her to get help. Well, I'm not sure about that. I've known plenty of people who functioned perfectly well and took good care of their children during their addiction to painkillers.

And plenty of people who didn't. Sounds like norinew's acquaintance is one of the latter, unfortunately. Although her messy house may be more due to her obsessive hoarding tendencies than her addiction. Still, what kind of abusive @#$% tells her kid that she'll bash her head in?! Maybe AZRob's suggestion would work if you could have CPS show up for a surprise inspection so they can see how her kids really live, norinew?

If this doctor is always writing these prescriptions, he's either an idiot, or knows what she's doing and doesn't care cause he's getting paid for a doctor's visit when she needs another Rx. I'm pretty sure most doctors are warned about people trying to score painkillers, and the excuse she's giving, 'the patch falls off,' is quite dubios. I would say talk to the doctor, see if he does know about her problem. If he is honestly clueless, then he can stop giving her the meds.

If he does know there is a problem, but doesn't do anything, then you can report him to somebody. Once the doctor is no longer giving her the meds, you can confront her and try to get her to go back to rehab.

Maybe this time, after she gets out and doesn't have an easy person to get the meds from, it will be easier to stay clean. Chorpler, the CPS has shown up unexpectedly; unfortunately, around here the foster-care situation is so lacking that CPS is unable to remove kids who are not in imminent danger, because they have no place to put the kids! I may give them a call, though; you never know. Bouv, I actually tried looking up the doctor's telephone number today; she (the doctor) is in Hagerstown, which is about an hour east of here. No doctor in town will even talk to her because she burned them all so bad during her Dilaudid days.

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I didn't have any luck finding the doctor's phone number. I'll have to do a little (careful) questioning of my acquaintance, to see what the doctor's name is. As it is, the daughter knows she can come here anytime she feels unsafe. It's the best I can do for now.

I would say talk to the doctor, see if he does know about her problem. If he is honestly clueless, then he can stop giving her the meds. If he does know there is a problem, but doesn't do anything, then you can report him to somebody. As I'm sure you know, this is something you can legally discuss with the doctor. That is, the doctor can't really tell you anything, however, I can't see any harm in talking to that doctor and saying something along the lines of 'I know you can't talk about your patients, but I believe a friend of mine name is a patient of yours and she's been having a problem.' If you really want to you could tell the doctor that if she keeps getting scripts from him you'll report him to the DEA, I believe they frown on this sort of thing.

If you don't know who the doctor is, you maybe able to talk to a pharmacist. Again, I'm sure they can't give you any info, but if you let them know the situation, they may contact the prescribing doctor or stop filling the prescriptions. If you don't know who the doctor is, you maybe able to talk to a pharmacist. Again, I'm sure they can't give you any info, but if you let them know the situation, they may contact the prescribing doctor or stop filling the prescriptions.

Well, talking to the pharmacist might prove helpful, if I can find out two pieces of info; One: which pharmacy is she getting this filled? As I've said, the doctor she goes to is about 50 miles east of here, and there are a lot of pharmacies between here and there. Two: what name is she using? She always uses her real first name, but for her last name she uses either her real last name, her common-law husband's last name, a combination of the two, or her mother's maiden name. I am possibly seeing her for lunch today and may be able to get some of this information.

The factors are the size of the person, how much drug is in the patch, and whether the person is opiate-naive or not. Well, she's pretty large. She's smaller-boned and shorter than me, but most of her shirts are too large for me, if that gives you some idea. She's hardly opiate-naive. She's been abusing narcotics for, from what I gather, at least 15 years now. My biggest concern was her liver (which I happen to know as fact is already very bad).

But from the in-the-know responses I've gotten, it doesn't seem like that's a real concern. My second biggest concern has been the fact that she drives just after eating the Fentanyl, and sometimes eats it while she's driving. Now, I don't ride in the vehicle with her driving, but I've seen her in other circumstances when she's using, and she has a tendency to nod. I can't imagine this makes for defensive driving techniques.

Fentanyl abuse occurs by a variety of methods, among many types of people. For example, some individuals abuse the prescription they've been given for a product such as:.

Duragesic® transdermal patches. Mylan generic Fentanyl patches. Actiq® lozenges or lollipops. Fentora® buccal tablets. IV (intravenous) Fentanyl injections Prescription Fentanyl Abuse Fentanyl is prescribed for chronic pain and for 'breakthrough pain,' which can be defined as sudden-onset, intense pain that usually strikes without warning, even when a patient is taking other pain medication.

The abuse of prescribed Fentanyl can occur when a patient develops (or pretends to develop) a tolerance for the Fentanyl dosage he or she has been administered. Fentanyl abuse can also occur when an individual exaggerates the pain he is experiencing in order to obtain a prescription for this drug, or when someone simply pretends to be injured or in great pain. Conversely, physicians have 'over-prescribed' Fentanyl by providing the medication (or too high a dose, or too long a treatment period) for a given patient. The is sometimes prescribed for migraine headaches or for pain experienced after surgery. How Is the Fentanyl Patch Abused? Can be (and are) abused by many people who simply want the 'high' that the patches can produce in a person who is not, in fact, in any pain.

Duragesic patches contain Fentanyl in gel form, in a pouch between two membranes. A Fentanyl abuser may steal Duragesic patches from the supply given to a family member, friend, or patient in his care, then use the patches himself — transdermally or by eating the Fentanyl gel. According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, fentanyl and its analogs (similar-acting drugs) are also manufactured in illegal laboratories and sold 'on the street,' under names such as:.

Fentanyl Gel Patch Abuse

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goodfella. jackpot. murder 8. TNT. Tango and Cash These drugs are often substituted for or mixed with heroin or cocaine. Fentanyl Abuse Statistics There are no sure estimates of the number of individuals who have engaged in Fentanyl abuse in the U.S., but the volume of Fentanyl alone (more than a billion dollars in Fentanyl product sales each year) and the number of (over 100 in recent years) suggest that the abuse is widespread. Learn more about Fentanyl abuse — contact a.